Curse

Achrr The Archer · Sep 24, 2009, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by superlost

I would say that black obsi armors are dominant just because black is the most expensive dye. As with other expensive items, it does not matter if it looks awful - it's the bling bling that matters. The new black is horrible. And what's more, there are very few armors that dye well with it.

I've dyed all my armors, a few sets of fow and a few sets of elite whatever the hell on my main account black. Reason: I like the color black. (Or absence of color to be politically correct).

tuna-fish_sushi · Sep 24, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Its actually a very smart move by Anet, allowing new players to get equipment equal to people who have been playing for years. But also allowing veterans to get items that look a lot better then the new player's items thus raising their epeen.

Ccat · Sep 24, 2009, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Hence the term 'x is the new black'. Everyone just naturally has a tendancy to the color.

subarucar · Sep 24, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by QueenofDeath

I guess that is the status symbol of leetness in this game since it really has no power elements or anything of any significant value other than vanity. Someone got a super claw of leetness looks so they are better than you syndrome?? lol

I usually see them as worse than me. I have been in many pugs and PvP matches with these FoW armour, Chaos gloves Ninja mask, BDS, Chrystaline Sword people, and the fact is most of them suck, I would have a clue how they got enough money/ectos to buy them.

The people who buy these rare/expensive things seem to care about the way the look, as they are paying huse amounts just for the look of an item. But then, they also have no idea of what looks good if they think FoW armour/Chaos Gloves/Ninja mask actually looks nice on a warrior? And a BDS? they look downright ugly on anything other than a necromancer. Sure it is personal opinion, but I'm there are many people out there who will agree.

Enon · Sep 24, 2009, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Ccat

People I know just naturally have a tendancy to the color.

Fixed. Unless you know everybody and their opinions?

Achrr The Archer · Sep 24, 2009, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by Enon

Fixed. Unless you know everybody and their opinions?

Yep, I'd like to say I see a lot more things brighly colored than black.

Tijger · Sep 24, 2009, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by ranger o mine

why buy a 500.000 dollar car if you can buy one for 10.000?

Because you can is a good answer, but there are people who can afford it and wont because to them its a waste of money or because they simply dont value cars.

Look, if someone wants to collect unusual or rare things and is willing to pay for it, all the best to them and if I get such an item I'll be happy to sell it to them.
I can afford FoW armor and I wont buy it because I dont like it, I dont care one iota if it gives any kind of status (which I doubt, once upon a time perhaps it did), I buy what I think looks good and there aint no argueing with taste

I say live and let live, if folks want to farm tons of ectos to be able to afford that one piece of awesomeness that only they think is awesome then have at it.

dusanyu · Sep 24, 2009, 07:50 PM // 19:50

I will admit I have droped a fewe ectos on silly vanity items chayos gloves, torm. weps etc.
About a year ago I would have agreed with the OP (in some ways i still do a max inscriptable purple is just as good as a max inscriptable gold from a Technical standpoint)

however one does reach the point of "what do i do with this stack of zkeys" titles being silly you go for the more tnagable although be it ugly reward

Ccat · Sep 24, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Enon

Fixed. Unless you know everybody and their opinions?

actually I don't know my friends' tendencies. I just thought the mere fact 'the new black' is a popular phrase would let me risk a blanket statement ^^

Martin Alvito · Sep 24, 2009, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Ccat

amidoinitrite?

gawd -

http://www.yourdictionary.com/trivia

http://www.answers.com/topic/trivia

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trivia

You're still fighting this losing battle? Your issue is that you do not understand the difference between "denotation" and "connotation". Go look those words up.

Just because the OED says that a word means something doesn't mean that the word gets used that way in practice. Further, words adopt tone and more focused meanings as usages change. If you'd ever tried to make yourself understood in a foreign language, you'd understand how the dictionary isn't always the last word.

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 24, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Let's clear this up with the bloody Oxford English Dictionary.

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trivia

• plural noun unimportant details or pieces of information.

You're wrong, drop it.

Ccat · Sep 24, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Whatever. I don't care. Let's stop the derailing.

Coverticus · Sep 24, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Ok, my two-penneth (not getting involved with the trivial matter of trivia...)

People in R/L, just as in any online game, will (in general) try to look the best. It gives them that feel good factor and therefore, potentially, an starting advantage over others. If something is worth "x" because of it's looks, rarity, size etc - many will go after it. BDS, Crystalline, Draconic, VS, Froggy etc all are bling items mainly because of the rarity. Some will like the looks of one whereas another will hate it (example many like the crystalline, I personally do not like it). BDS is ugly but is of a large size, same with the VS. Animations also come into the fray. Add all of these up and you get an idea why items cost. Just like real life. Peer pressure also factors (he/she has one, so therefore must I).

There are of course people who will say as long as it gets the job done, its fine. Doesn't matter if it cost 1g or 1000 ectoes.

In the early days, if someone was running around with FoW armour and rare weps, peeps (again, in general) would think "he/she must be good, lets invite!". Now it has never been easier to get the commodity to fund the expensive items, if this is the route a player wished to take. Others just say "if it drops, great!".

Looks are not everything, even in real life. Example being a place where I used to work. A developer (NOT from ANet

) came in on the first day to be working with me - Armani suit, expensive laptop, flashy gold watch etc etc. Had "talked" an outstanding good game in his interview by all accounts. But when the work started, he was found out very quickly. Looked good, talked great - couldn't cut the mustard when it came down to action.

He lasted 6 days...

crazybanshee · Sep 24, 2009, 09:36 PM // 21:36

40k is steep but people are idiots. Either they don't know what it's worth, or they think you're desperate and will pay that. Fwiw, a focus core of aptitude 20% is worth 3-4k and a forget me not 20% is worth 22-25k.

lord of all tyria · Sep 24, 2009, 09:46 PM // 21:46

I own 10 torment shields. Why? Because I RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing can.

Gli · Sep 24, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11

I still miss the old dye system. I've a gorgeous (in my own not so humble opinion) deep red elite imperial ritualist armor that's an old-school style mixture of just red and several blacks. It can't be recreated with the new system, which means I can't have similarly dyed but differently runed spare parts for it.

Oh well, at least EotN gave us perfect salvage kits. They're cheaper than overwriting runes and insignias all the time.

Nerel · Sep 25, 2009, 07:56 AM // 07:56

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Originally Posted by wilderness

I think we can pretty safely assume that the OP is lying and using this example as a cheap way to further his obvious point.

Well the quoted mod was a HCT mod for an offhand (Focus core of aptitude) which clearly isn't worth the price asked (easy enough to get in the 2-5k range). HSR inscription (forget me not) on the other hand, usually an easy 20k, or at least it has been for the longest time, and you often see stupid people trying to sell for far more...

Looks around Kamadan american dis 1... yep, plenty of stupid people, he might be telling the truth.

Never underestimate the stupidity or greed of the average GW player, you'll only be disappointed.

Zahr Dalsk · Sep 25, 2009, 12:11 PM // 12:11

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Originally Posted by Achrr The Archer

I like the color black. (Or absence of color to be politically correct).

I take it that's a joke about the inaccuracy of political correctness; it certainly made me smile.

Because, y'know, black is a colour.

Rocky Raccoon · Sep 25, 2009, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

I take it that's a joke about the inaccuracy of political correctness; it certainly made me smile.

Because, y'know, black is a colour.

You are both right or both wrong.

http://www.colormatters.com/vis_bk_white.html

As to the OP what else is there to do with the in game money?

QueenofDeath · Sep 25, 2009, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Nerel

Well the quoted mod was a HCT mod for an offhand (Focus core of aptitude) which clearly isn't worth the price asked (easy enough to get in the 2-5k range). HSR inscription (forget me not) on the other hand, usually an easy 20k, or at least it has been for the longest time, and you often see stupid people trying to sell for far more...

Looks around Kamadan american dis 1... yep, plenty of stupid people, he might be telling the truth.

Never underestimate the stupidity or greed of the average GW player, you'll only be disappointed.

Thank you Nerel I am telling the truth. That's why I posted because 40k for a HCT is just rediculously stupid price. But, then the other things really don't have those high values either unless other players allow them to have such a price. I wouldn't pay 800ectos for a free copy of Guild Wars 2 (well yeah I would but that's beside the point lol)

It would just be nice to have some things of value because of the value they have INGAME not some vanity value. I just don't get all excited and fall all over myself for a skin or the color of it. Thus, why I said I just don't see the high value of things in this game. Nothing that I don't already have makes me any more powerful and everything was pretty cheap to obtain.

I guess I just see the glass half empty.